tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post543723678588211463..comments2023-05-27T07:03:38.116-05:00Comments on Round Rock Ministry: The Trinity Delusion: a responseGilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-6907531992196253582021-05-22T12:45:02.196-05:002021-05-22T12:45:02.196-05:00Of course a 'ministry' [read:business] has...Of course a 'ministry' [read:business] has to support trinity. It is an integral part of the sleepy-eyed, one-hour-a-week religion most of the pew sitters have.<br />Never will the 'pastors' allow any serious participation, and especially questions that are not within the very limited 'teaching' they do.<br />The Bible contains 66 Books and most 'new testament' churches ignore the 39 original books, implying they are 'outdated' and 'insignificant' today.<br />The fact is, the Hebrew Scriptures totally blast to pieces any notion of a trinity. Moses, Abraham, Daniel, et al. not once remotely suggest the wild-eyed concoction of the Nicean council, long after the canon was closed...fulfilling the prophecy of apostacy.<br /><br />In conclusion, the article about the trinity Delusion is so right on, accurate and damaging to the corporations masquerading as churches.Freddynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-27388831860438085062017-01-30T16:45:46.152-06:002017-01-30T16:45:46.152-06:00It would appear you that either you have not read ...It would appear you that either you have not read anything of what I have written or you have failed to understand the most basic points which I have made in this and other articles.<br />As an example of the latter is your mistaken assumption that I the Holy Spirit is a person. Secondly, your complete mistaken assumption that I _ don't like labels?<br />The last mistaken assumption is solely your own. I refer to your statement that labels "tend to clarify things somewhat." Again, if you had read my article you would I am not bothered in the least by my brothers and sisters who use them. I understand what they mean. Labels are what those who lead, teach and preach and scholars and theologians have handed down to the saints as a clarifying agent of the muddled concoctions. So, no, Anny, labels don't clarify anything. They are for parroting by so-called trinitarians and so-called unitarians. They are TEND to give the impress that the person using the label understands what is behind the label, but nothing could be farther from the truth. peace to you, Anny.Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-27054206464593442852017-01-22T17:12:50.310-06:002017-01-22T17:12:50.310-06:00I was open once, now I have chosen.
If we simply s...I was open once, now I have chosen.<br />If we simply say Unitarian this can lead to confusion because we also have the Unitarian Universalist church.<br />If you believe that the Holy Spirit is a person, then your belief is a Trinitarian one. You may not like labels but we human beings are comfortable with labels, they tend to clarify things somewhat.<br />Greetings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-11218905978386339682017-01-21T04:35:51.099-06:002017-01-21T04:35:51.099-06:00It is fine by me that you found Adam Pastor's ...It is fine by me that you found Adam Pastor's blog useful, Anonymous.<br />I was far more open towards Adam then he or you, Anonymous, have shown yourselves. I am not surprised about your assessment that my "aim was to critise (sic) Adam." I am also not surprised about the cozy label you pin, like so-called trinatarians, pin proudly on yourself. Your need for the extra coating of not just "Unitarian," but "Biblical Unitarian" is very much a part of the standard parroting of slogans and catchy phrases on both sides of that so-called discussion. A superficial browsing of Adam's post reveals that he does not seem to have anything to say other than to copy/paste what others say, hence, his own parroting. Blessing to you brother or sister, Anonymous.Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-56023484714494521192017-01-20T19:18:10.341-06:002017-01-20T19:18:10.341-06:00Thank you Gil, your blog has been a blessing to me...Thank you Gil, your blog has been a blessing to me. I am a Biblical Unitarian always searching for good online resources on the truth about Jesus, the human Christ of God the Father.<br />You have introduced me to Adam Pastor's page which contains many links to excellent and well researched material on the truth, namely that Jesus is not God and the Holy Spirit not a person.<br />Ironic isn't it? Your aim was to criticise Adam's post on The Trinity Delusion but your post only served to guide me toward more wonderful truth away from the lie of the Trinity doctrine.<br />God uses people in unusual ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-83509912089595444232016-11-19T11:39:41.605-06:002016-11-19T11:39:41.605-06:00I appreciate your comment, Winston. It rings famil...I appreciate your comment, Winston. It rings familiar. Did you post this comment on my blog before? Just curious on that point.<br /><br /><br />There are two things which it appears you have completely misunderstood.<br /><br /><br />First, although I make the point that I have no need or use for the term “trinity” I do not have a problem with anyone who uses it. I do not need to present my understanding and teaching for the edification of the saints concerning the deity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The use of the term DOES NOT, in my understanding, rise to the level of some kind of heresy.<br /><br /><br />Second, I am not aware of your description of the term “trinity” as being a “word hated” by the fellowship of churches of Christ. I will not argue if that is what you might have experienced in a particular congregation. I am aware that the use of the term by most people, yes, that is a very broad generalization, is mistakenly parroted by Christians as evidence that they understand the deity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit when this is often far from the truth. This is not a condemnation or ridicule of anyone. It just simply means that there is work to be done.<br /><br /><br />Thank you for reading my blog and for commenting.Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-14301085898325274472016-11-19T08:54:48.104-06:002016-11-19T08:54:48.104-06:00Titus 1:13 is referring to two separate beings, Go...Titus 1:13 is referring to two separate beings, God the Father and His Son. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04996521060246467106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-82576148612383979762016-02-20T19:46:11.858-06:002016-02-20T19:46:11.858-06:00You have merely parroted Psalm 82 and Jesus quotat...You have merely parroted Psalm 82 and Jesus quotation of the same. It does not necessarily reflect or communicate an understanding, unless of course, I have misunderstood your brief comment. Your conclusion that all Jews are God may be as much of an overshoot as the other common assumption that the psalms reference by Jesus is about the prophets.<br />Your focus, too, on the single word definition in isolation is a common practice.Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-71065201744522521222016-02-20T14:33:51.831-06:002016-02-20T14:33:51.831-06:00Based on this analysis all Jews are God - John 10:...Based on this analysis all Jews are God - John 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? (Psalms 82:6). The same word in the Hebrew for "God" and "god" and the same word is used in the Greek is used for "God" and "god".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-24744584496207611022015-08-07T10:56:01.769-05:002015-08-07T10:56:01.769-05:00I do appreciate your comment.
I prefer to take yo...I do appreciate your comment.<br /><br />I prefer to take your words personally, not because I take offense, but because I can much sooner speak for myself as opposed to the saints in the fellowship of the churches of Christ.<br /><br />I word that I hate? Trinity? trinity? Really? When I stated that I have no need, desire or use for the term trinity I also stated that I take no offense when I hear my brothers and sisters in Christ use it.<br /><br />I understand it is just one other indicator of the struggle by the saints to understand and know the God who loves us and whom we love. The term, like various others, is what that saints are served up by those who lead, teach and preach as a substitute for helping the saints to attain a greater understanding of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.<br /><br />Just minutes ago I pointed out to a brother who was a bit more brief than you, but who also mistakenly concluded (as he admitted, he had not read the my article) that I had rejected the deity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Whether it is of myself or my brothers and sisters in the fellowship of the churches of Christ, you are seriously mistaken, both about what (and I can hardly blame you) you might have heard and learned up to 1971 and what I have spelled out in this article. (I elaborated much further on the content in the hyper links which appear in this article. Those links are to to the "God who is one: on a unitarian and trinitarian debate.)<br /><br />Grace and peace to you in Jesus our Lord and Savior.Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-8609689695253991542015-08-07T07:21:04.399-05:002015-08-07T07:21:04.399-05:00Jesus is God (Titus 2:13) and God the Father calls...Jesus is God (Titus 2:13) and God the Father calls Jesus God (Hebrews 1:8). These are just two powerful New Testament passages which identify Jesus as God the Son.<br />There are many theological words hated by the Churches of Christ, like the Word Trinity. Trinity is just a word which describes the reality of the being of God as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are not each other, but they are all equally God. To deny the doctrine of the Trinity is to place oneself outside of of the Christian faith. The Trinity is the last teaching standing as Biblically true, when the alternatives to the Trinity are examined and weighed.<br />I left the Churches of Christ in 1971, learned decent Biblical Theology and have not looed back.BrotherBrendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04326428666419010821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-20502069371530742402015-02-13T23:04:41.473-06:002015-02-13T23:04:41.473-06:00Thank you for your comment,
I mindful and am awa...Thank you for your comment, <br /><br />I mindful and am aware of the Jewish handling of the name of God. It is also my understanding this was in accordance with their own notions about his name. When God sternly warned Israel not to take the name of the God in name they thought to play it safe. This is a ill conceived plan any time believers think they can improve on what God has said. When God declared his name to Moses it was not for him to keep silent or keep among the Jews. No, he was told to declare the name of God to pagan Pharoah and his entire court.<br /><br />I encourage you to review the Hebrew and Greek translations on lord or LORD in Isaiah 6. Then, with the knowledge of who it was that Isaiah saw see how the same passage is applied by John in John 12. Both passages are in the context of unbelief . . . of whom?Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-75626206660890965922015-02-12T22:32:17.002-06:002015-02-12T22:32:17.002-06:00Psalm 110:1 in Hebrew is "Yahweh said to Adon...Psalm 110:1 in Hebrew is "Yahweh said to Adoni." Adoni is never used for Yahweh in the Bible. Psalm 110:1 does not mean "Yahweh said to Yahweh" but "Yahweh said to my superior / my liege / my master"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-67394617998992367572012-07-20T23:36:25.216-05:002012-07-20T23:36:25.216-05:00Yes, the Acts 5:9 is one which attributes deity to...Yes, the Acts 5:9 is one which attributes deity to the Holy Spirit. So much of the article I was refuting here is the same stuff over and over. Too often these are mere copy pastes with the poster never contributing any comments of his own to convey his own understanding and convictions. The travesty of this is that there are too many who read it and accept it as being true. Thank you for your comment. I WISH my blog would hold its settings to alert me as it should when I receive comments. Again, thank you, Roald.Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349549764077933266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-78154709968510318342012-07-10T04:08:08.912-05:002012-07-10T04:08:08.912-05:00Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things...Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath GIVEN to them that obey him.Rowirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00239926763076129417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468989760708442428.post-43744444673941567532012-07-10T04:01:23.409-05:002012-07-10T04:01:23.409-05:00''One of those truths the Holy Spirit reve...''One of those truths the Holy Spirit revealed to the disciples about himself and preserved in the New Testament scriptures is in Acts 5:1-4: He is God.''<br /><br />How does this view fit Acts 5:9 Where they tempt the Spirit OF the Lord?<br /><br />Act 5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.Rowirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00239926763076129417noreply@blogger.com