Tuesday, March 6, 2018

An Incomplete and Disingenuous Apologetic

It is true that one must speak with conviction their understanding on a given subject in the scriptures. It is also true that it is not an easy matter to admit that our convictions which we have based on our understanding are mistaken. We might require some time away from the crossfire of discussion to reflect on what we have heard against what we have professed.

Here is a telltale indicator which may give good reason to be leery about a teaching; when the illustrations and rhetorical questions are so detached and disconnected so as to stretch thin the limits of credulity to where these become (especially in the absence of a ready response), or at least, they appear to be true. The discussion concerning the question of deity is without exceptional exception. The discussion is often rife with disingenuous defenses on both sides of the discussion.

This article is not a lengthy discourse or refutation or presentation. It is a brief presentation of the scripture and of the scripture on the scripture. In other words, I have made every effort to stay out of the way of the scripture and let it (as though I could impede the word of God) speak.

Here is favorite scripture from the gospel of John. It is the prayer of Jesus to the Father.


1 Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said,"Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You,



2 even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.

3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. (John 17)

What is taken without exception from the passage is the words spoken by Jesus in reference to the Father, “. . . You, the only true God . . .” The phrase is extracted from all else in the passage because it purportedly makes a definitive, clear declaration of the deity of the Father, solely. The desired and intended effect, according to this interpretation, is to exclude Jesus or to deny the deity of Jesus.

Now, here is the scripture on the scripture. Interestingly enough, it was written by the same writer, the apostle John. 

13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. 21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols. (I John 5)

Follow the references yourself between the passages in John 17 and I John 5 concerning:

eternal life,

true and

true God.

Then, draw your own inferences and conclusions concerning deity.

Remember what I stated about telltale indicators. Some time ago I noticed what struck me as a peculiar use of a phrase by a brother who attached it generously to his message. His own inferences and conclusions were limited to John 17 and were focused and locked in on the deity of the Father solely. I was struck by his admonition against idolatry to anyone whose understanding on deity was not, like his understanding, limited to the Father. Yes, the admonition stands on its own as being as from the apostle John. What I came to realize one day was that it was not righteous zeal which I was hearing from that brother. I believe his reference to idolatry revealed his familiarity with the passage. What he had done was to merely seize the phrase from the closing verse of the letter of First John and attached it to his truncated message for a certain desired ringing effect of legitimacy:

Little children, guard yourselves from idols. (5:21)

Why does this seemingly righteous and biblical reference to idolatry seem to be an incomplete and disingenuous apologetic on deity? It is because his reference to the term idolatry is always devoid of any reference to the above verses which I have cited from I John 5. John makes the same claims of deity with respect to Jesus in I John 5 as he made about the Father in John 17.

It is not the purpose or scope of this article to go into the cascade of illustrations and rhetorical questions which are so detached and disconnected, but which nonetheless do, with patience, merit their own discussion space and time.

Saturday, February 17, 2018

He who is able to accept this, let him accept it

Divorce and remarriage touch the lives of women and men, the saints in Christ. Often divorce and remarriage ravages the lives of one or the other of two people who were once intimates. The scriptures reveal for us this subject of divorce and remarriage for our study, discussion and learning. These accounts in the scriptures also reveal something about those who lead, teach and preach. Generally, particularly the unaffected, do not think about this human experience as having been devoid of anything to accept or to receive.

The Old Testament scriptures relate the example of Ezra and Nehemiah and their response concerning the unequal yoke of mixed marriages among the children of Israel. There is the example in the New Testament of the Pharisees who approached Jesus with their questions on divorce. These examples are not to be dismissed as some ancient practice or a theological discussion. They reveal and equip with a response those who lead, teach and preach the word of the Lord concerning ourbrothers and sisters who are affected by divorce and remarriage.

Thursday, January 25, 2018

How could a good God allow suffering?

If that’s the Christian’s God who allows suffering I don’t want anything to do with him/her or it.

There are other similar responses to suffering by unbelievers and believers alike, but I think this will suffice for you to get the picture. Some of this responses are often laced with a heavy, thick coat of vile, foul profanities so as to either foment a froth of real substance or to incite and intimidate Christians. These responses to the problem of suffering serve a multi-purpose to deny, indict and condemn God, but also they are also not much more than a pretext to exalt oneself to a higher more noble, moral plane than, for unbelievers of a would-be God, and for believers of God who allows such suffering. It is not likely that those who espouse these responses to suffering would argue that these are well thought-out viewpoints. Mostly these are in the manner of a hit-and-run tactic. They are a means to push aside that whole God thing. It is hardly a solution to the problem of suffering much less the willingness to confront the struggle to understand suffering.

Tuesday, January 16, 2018

The Father Knows


The Father Knows
by
Gilbert Torres

Admittedly, there was an alternate title for this article which crossed my mind; who’s your daddy? The point being, if you can move past my low grade humor, is on the superiority of father. Certainly, among Christians when the discussion centers on the question of deity one can almost hear the chant, Father! Father! Father! as the one who knows and who knows all things. This is especially true in contrast with the Son who unabashedly and unapologetically declared, in the minds of some saints, that he did not know the hour of his coming. Hence, Jesus dropped the deity card, or as others strongly imply in this gotcha theology, it makes Jesus unreliable.

assertions and claims
Typically, most of the arguments and counter-arguments on the deity of Jesus are both bland and either negative or positive assertions that Jesus is not God or Jesus is God. The back and forth exchanges often seem like and take on the tone of a shouting match between schoolyard kids, “is not!” “is too!” Does anyone remember getting into a schoolyard word fight over who's dad was bigger and stronger? So, too, are the demands for just one verse as proof to support one’s theology. After all, it is the isolated, single-verse mentality which often reigns supreme in these so-called discussions. I cringe at the thought of the reactionary response with which this article might be seized as just another ping pong ball. Any understanding which purports to exalt the Father but which denies or diminishes the Son is, to understate it, seriously suspect. Of course, no one would deliberately or outright claim or acknowledge that they deny or diminish the Son. But, it would be just as bad to think that we can exalt the Son if we deny or diminish the Father.

Why didn’t Jesus, as is often heard from Muslims as well as Christians who doubt or deny the deity of Jesus, just declare and say clearly and aloud, “I am God.”

lessons lost
Understandably, this demand for such proof is the same and it is very much what might be expected from atheists. However, it is a travesty, on the other hand, that Christians would make this their ultimate standard. Once again, the mere query purports to disprove, or at least seriously question, the deity of Jesus by way of a negative question. It speculates on what the scripture does not state rather than examine what it does state. The even worse travesty of this negative question tactic is that it is often assumed to be and is mistaken for knowledge and understanding by the one posing the question.

The lessons on what the scripture states about Cain are lost. Cain interacted with God. Yet, although Cain had no doubt, at least it would seem reasonable to infer given his interactions with God, as to the existence of God it is hardly true to say that Cain believed God. Then, there is the lesson of what the scripture states about the testimony from God himself about Israel who heard his voice and saw his works. Yet, Israel did not believe God. On the contrary the testimony from God is that they were an obstinate, unbelieving and stubborn people. Hence, seeing and hearing are not necessarily a full-proof guarantee of belief.

One of the much touted claims against the deity of Jesus stems from the time when Jesus declared to the disciples concerning the hour of his coming that, no one knows, not even the angels, nor the Son, but the Father alone. (Matthew 24:36) Here is my blog article on that discussion topic, Was Jesus Ignorant? The reason why I mention this claim here is only to highlight what the ignorance which is ascribed to Jesus and which simultaneously purports to exalt the knowledge of God, the Father.

the Shema and Jesus
Shortly after Jesus had twice strongly admonished the Sadducees saying to them

Is this not the reason you are mistaken, that you do not understand the scriptures or the power of God?
And
. . . you are greatly mistaken.

that Jesus quotes the Shema from Deuteronomy 6. It was at this time that the Pharisees saw that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees (Matthew 22:34) that they move in to take their turn at Jesus. It is this quotation of the Shema by Jesus which is blithely claimed to be proof for a negative assertion that Jesus was not a so-called trinitarian. What escapes this blissful glee is the significance in the words of the Shema as spoken by Jesus. The Shema reads:

Hear, o Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one.
The quotation by Jesus reads as follows:
Hear, o Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord.

What is significant about the way Jesus quotes the Shema is his emphasis on Lord. Jesus reiterates what the Shema asserts, namely, that the Lord is God. The sum of every word and work of Jesus was to give glory to God, the Father. The unfortunate point about this and on which some are mistaken and others greatly mistaken is that while the Father is God, both the Shema and Jesus declare it is The Lord is our God (the wording of the Shema) and The Lord our God (the wording of Jesus) - is one Lord. It may not be intentional, but the focus and emphasis on who is or is not God seems misplaced and be suggestive of an inability, perhaps reluctance, to grasp and accept the emphasis on Lord.

The emphasis in both by the Shema and by Jesus is not on God, but on the Lord. This reflects the prevalent references in the Old Testament. There is the example of the Lord God himself who declared that he himself (Ezekiel 34) would seek for, search for and care for his sheep like a shepherd. Then, when Jesus, the Begotten Son comes into the world, he declares that he himself is the Good Shepherd. The implication concerning the Lord God and the Good Shepherd is there for all to read and the inference is for all to draw.

conclusion
Do not swing wildly and run to the other end of the spectrum with a seriously mistaken negative claim that the Father is not God and thereby you dishonor the Son, because to dishonor one is to dishonor the other. The positive assertion from the Shema and Jesus is that the Lord is God with the designation of Lord being as prevalent of Jesus as the scriptures state in, both the Old and New Testaments declare that, the Lord our God is one Lord. The Son acknowledges and praises the Father as Lord of heaven and earth, Jesus declared. (Matthew 11:25, 27)

"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.”

Then, yet again, Jesus followed up with one final point. He posited a query to the scribes concerning the enigma of Psalm 110 about the Lord and my Lord. No one ventured to answer Jesus. He did not offer any explanation. Once again, the implication is there for all to read and the inference is for all to draw concerning the Lord. It is not for you to wonder why Jesus did answer his own question for the scribes. It is for you to understand the scriptures and to teach what the scriptures state, not what they do not state.

The Father knew, just as those who profess to know him as their Father, who is Lord. The Son knew who is Lord. Do you? If you say Jesus is Lord, as Jesus said to Pilate when Pilate asked Jesus if he was the king of the Jews,

Are you saying this on your own initiative, or did others tell you about me?

Tuesday, January 9, 2018

The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!
He works
all things in all persons

(This is a series which I have submitted to my shepherds for their approval. I hope to teach it soon. gt)

Part I
The Lord God is one:
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

Lesson One
God pronounces his unity (Deuteronomy 6)
Lesson Two
Jesus proclaims the Lord our God is one Lord (Mark 12)
Lesson Three
Paul declares the work of Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1)

Part II
The Gift of the Father / The gifts of God

Lesson One
The Giver of the Holy Spirit (John 3:34; Luke 11:13)
Lesson Two
The Gift of the Holy Spirit (John 14:17)
Lesson Three
A brief discussion on First Corinthians 14

Lesson Four
The Gifts of the Holy Spirit (I Cor 12a 1-10)
Lesson Five
The Gift which works through you
Lesson Six
The Gift that is in You

Thursday, January 4, 2018

When Jesus denied that he is God


The title of this article is that of the video presenter who identifies himself as Brother Kel in his YouTube channel. It reflects neither my understanding nor convictions concerning the deity of Jesus.

God is good. The statement seems benign and harmless enough. There are similarly and seemingly harmless words which were spoken by Jesus which are taken either to assert or to deny his deity. The presenter in this video has seized on these words of Jesus to deny the deity of Jesus, Why do you call me me good. No one is good except God alone. What is especially egregious about his efforts to deny the deity of Jesus is that it is equally egregious by those who cite these words of Jesus to assert his deity. There is no shortage of texts to ponder on the question of deity. Here are a few from my blog. [1] [2] [3]

Tuesday, January 2, 2018

Readers, Seekers, and Learners



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January 1 & 2

The purpose, fulfillment and affirmation between God/LORD God/LORD and humans stands in stark contrast to the laws cause and effect in nature. Creation is the purpose of God, which is affirmed by the LORD God. Initially, the scripture testifies God created the heavens and the earth. is the LORD God to whom is ascribed the creation, specifically.

Chapter 1

1 First appearance of the term, God -- elohim (pl) (The term is used of pagan gods, too.)
(This seems to present the Purpose: “Let there be . . . Let us make”)

Chapter 2

4 First appearance of the term, LORD God -- yahweh elohim (The term is use of the God of Israel.)
(This seems to present the Fulfillment: LORD God “made heaven and earth”)

23 The first words spoken by a human being, namely, Adam, he does not refer to or acknowledge God/LORD God/LORD.

Chapter 3

3 Eve, perhaps following the serpent’s cue, refers to God in her dialog with the serpent.

10 Neither Adam nor Eve address God/LORD or God/LORD in their dialog with him.

Chapter 4

1 First appearance of the term, LORD -- Yahweh (The term is used of the God of Israel.)

(This seems to present the Affirmation: “gotten a manchild” “Then the LORD said to Cain.” The initial and first affirmation by Eve refers to the LORD is affirmed by the LORD himself when the LORD affirms and counsels Cain on his emotional plight.)